请大家讨论爬广东1000m山峰中探路线路的安全要求

大头虾

广东省1000m以上山峰中，绝大多数山峰暂时还没有攻略，对这些山峰的首次探路活动，我草拟了几点安全要求，以抛砖引玉。
<br>1，参加人员要有安全意识，有一定的户外经验。
<br>2，不接纳新手，人人都要有自救的能力。
<br>3，自习登山手册，熟悉登山常识。
<br>4，参加人员须有团队协作精神。
<br>5，每次人数不超过20人，头驴有选择队员的权利。
<br>6，体力要求，能负重15kg(MM,12kg)以较快速度持续行走6小时以上。
<br>7，装备要求：个人装备齐全；集体装备：辅绳30m、对讲机、蛇药，条件成熟后装备求生袋、GPS
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<br>其他：1，探过的线路，作为休闲路线，多走走，多带带新人。
<br>      2，总结详细的攻略，内部使用，对外只提供给有需要的、有经验的山友，不公开发布。
<br>< ID="edit"><FONT class="small"><EM>Edited by 大头虾 on 2002/05/22 19:30.</EM></FONT></P>

木牛

我觉得这项工作需要广东的驴子们协力合作。
<br>建议可以在广州绿野建立资料库，可以指定几头驴子来联络。
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<br>汕头附近1000米以上的山峰我们已经上了两座了，不过难度并不大。
<br>广州绿野的朋友如果到汕头来，麦田的驴子定会热情接待！
<br>到时还请多多指教。
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<br>感觉最大的问题是缺乏地图，所以总少不了当地向导。
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木牛

第二条
<br>多有经验的驴子都曾经是新手，建议可以限制每次外出队伍中新人的数目，如不超过2人。
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<br>第五条
<br>20人太多了，会对自然环境造成较大影响，队伍也不好控制。
<br>建议不超过8人，且明确各自在队伍中的角色，责任。
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<br>上午和朋友通电话讨论这次深圳山难时，觉得以后出去有必要提前制定一个应急措施，遇到紧急情况不至于惊慌失措。
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<br>我也是个新手，以上建议权做抛砖引玉。

野猪

    1、探路级的活动最好不超过10人。
<br>    2、集体装备的迫切性很强，最好由版主来组织统一购买，有志于参与这项活动的驴友最好不要仅限于讨论，原意参加AA制购买装备的请跟帖报名。本人首先报名。
<br>    3、请有探险经验的驴友踊跃参与并担任领队。上周我很冒昧地组织了一次活动，安全隐患很多，穿越成功纯属侥幸。事后想来，像我这样从无探险经验、不会攀岩、没有尝试过野外生存的新驴实在不应该组织这类探险级的活动，是对大家的不负责任。当然我很原意协助头驴做些工作。

山猪

在你带领下跟着你完成首次活动，穿越成功。虽然不排除运气成分，但主要原因是有个很好的leader
<br>（责任心、乐于助人。。。）。经验大家是可以慢慢积累。
<br>海拔1000小组我相信在你带领下，是最好的选择。我们会全力协助你！！
<br>集体装备：
<br>我和kowin的个人安全装备齐全，可以拿出来共用。（2条30米辅绳、安全带、上升器、下降器。。。）
<br>现在最迫切的是需要购买对讲机，初步意见是购买 健伍-F6A（不知各位DX还有什么好的推荐）
<br>过几天一起到海印看看。
<br>费用我建议是核心小组成员AA制，你看如何？？
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<br><br><br>我是一头贫穷的驴子，想FB，但只有ZN！

superzhou

Navigation
<br>OS Map Symbols
<br>Grid References
<br>Contours
<br>What is a bearing?
<br>What does a compass actually do?
<br>The 3 North’s
<br>Setting a map
<br>Map to Terrain
<br>Terrain to Map
<br>Triangulation Rapid & Thorough
<br>Attack points
<br>Different Map types, i.e. Old Yellow, New Yellow, New Orange
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<br>Cunningness
<br>Counting Walls & Streams
<br>rogress along a path measurement via. a 90° bearing
<br>Barns and other such constructions
<br>Map inaccuracies and miraculously appearing forests
<br>ublic rights of way & footpaths
<br>Access land
<br>Folding maps
<br>Junction decision making with the aid of a compass
<br>Watch the skies for impending weather
<br>The Human Factor
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<br>Creative leadership
<br>Tailor the walk & route for the group
<br>Tell the group what’s going on
<br>Diplomacy: i.e. shield the punters from harsh truths
<br>Show them the route and where they now are
<br>Count faces not heads
<br>Let back markers rest, i.e. no elastic groups
<br>Keep group within line of sight at all times
<br>ick a good / sheltered lunch spot
<br>Ask the group about lunch
<br>Keep an eye on their health / fitness
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<br>Emergency Procedures
<br>Lateness
<br>If only 5-15 minutes late, carry on regardless
<br>If convenient use a phone to page the group, else carry on.
<br>Stay on or near the route card unless there’s a sensible short cut
<br>Stick together unless sensible to do otherwise
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<br>ractice a page
<br>Express the need for speed in typing
<br>Write down message to send before hand
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<br>Lost: Good visibility
<br>Aim for a known route, e.g. road / big river then use compass at 90° heading to determine position along it
<br>Retrace steps to last known position
<br>osition yourself via. guesstimation or failing that triangulation
<br>Road signs for progress between towns
<br>Nearby phone box, ask the operator "where the dickens am I?"
<br>ostboxes have location on them
<br>National Trust signs often have position information, or it’s obvious where they are on the map i.e. next to an entrance to NT land
<br>If you’re really really stuffed, then sit down and stop. Don’t just wander aimlessly, you’re only making the search area larger
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<br>Lost: Poor (no) visibility
<br>Don’t get lost in the 1st place, you can see fog coming a mile off if not in a forest.
<br>Remember where you’ve been, look behind you
<br>Stop and Think
<br>Stay in Line of Sight
<br>Use Compass / GPS
<br>Distances seem much longer
<br>Objects seem bigger and further away in fog
<br>Head for a known route / position, e.g. road, green lane, track, wall, town.
<br>Failing that head in the general direction that you know is a good one, e.g. head due East until you reach a wall / track / road / stream. Then follow that.
<br>If you’re really really stuffed, then sit down and stop. Don’t just wander aimlessly, you’re only making the search area larger
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<br>Lost Members
<br>Assuming group is not late, return to last known place
<br>Try to guess where they might have gone
<br>Go get them, e.g. nearest pub
<br>Keep the group with you
<br>Recruit any passing ODS groups to aid in the search
<br>Ask passers by if they’ve seen anyone
<br>Get a sensible description from the group
<br>If late, or getting late, recruit as many ODS walk leaders as possible
<br>Get the co-ordinator in on it ASAP
<br>Keep any search patterns small, limit to &frac12; hour there AND back
<br>Leave something like a postit note on the bus windscreen
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<br>Injury 1: Experienced walkers present
<br>Send them for help in groups of 2+
<br>Once any parties have left, STAY PUT unless in any immediate danger
<br>repare the departing group as much as possible, i.e. detailed instructions: "Joe Bloggs has knackered his left leg and the group is at xxxyyy, hiding under the 3rd ash tree in from the right"
<br>Look after the rest of the group
<br>Choose between the emergency services or the ODS, if a hospital job go for 999, if a small sprain go for the ODS
<br>Don’t send the 1st aider away, nor the group equipment.
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<br>Injury 2: &frac12; way up Whernside
<br>Take the rest of the group to, say, Ribblehead pub to wait
<br>Leave 1 or 2 people with the injured and the 1st aider. Priorities: 1) First aider, 2) Equipment, 3) Friend
<br>Make the waiting group ready for: 1) A long wait, 2) Cold, 3) Shelter, 4) Make them visible, 5) Stay put
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<br><br><br>没有砝码的天平

大头虾

我们多数都是新人，包括我，我的想法是探路时拒绝完全没有经验的新手，界定上暂以是否爬过三次1000m山峰为准，新手通过休闲活动培养，不适合参加探路活动。
<br>欢迎有经验的老驴参加，相信他们有比我们更好的判断能力，楼上野猪甚至连队长之位也要让贤。
<br>探路前很难找到详细的资料，临时也很难找到合适的向导，只靠大家的一张嘴，所以我们有个好的首席联络官非常重要，特长要求：嘴甜。
<br>建议探路队员轮流担任休闲活动的向导，带大伙都走走。
<br>活动在广东省内，欢迎省内驴友，但行前先向队长详细介绍自己，或者互相了解，否则请先参加休闲活动。
<br>以上个人观点，抛砖引玉。

大头虾

钛十三

集体装备的购买是个麻烦的事情，购买、保管、借用手续都很麻烦。
<br>实际上，集体装备也就是对讲机、主绳两个东西，其它的技术装备一般都是个人使用的，再说也不放心用别人用过的呀？
<br>所以，我的想法：应该尽力完善个人技术装备，对讲机可以想租用的途径；主绳可以借用个人的，再支付折价费用。

小刺猬

看过一此户外运动的资料，基本上都提到人员方面，最好是6-10人。新手（不是指的绝对新手，即指的相对而言，例如有过一两次探险经验，有较好的体能等）一般控制在2人左右。
<br>这是一些应对自然的措施。我们还应该考虑一下面对人的危险。例如遇到劫匪？所以队伍的团队合作意识应非常强烈。出发前应有一定的应对。有经验的头驴及驴友应对当时的情况能做出判断的能力,是反抗还是顺从?
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