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已经和厂商联系过证实其未做UIAA认证(附已经通过UIAA认证动力绳列表和认证过期时间)

DYNAMIC ROPES UIAA 101 Date: 2008-07-20
The products listed below are conform to the UIAA Standards
Beal

Product name Size Description Expiry date
Elliot Scott 10.2 mm single rope 2010-12-31
PMI Encore 10.6 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Wall Master IV 10.5 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Wall Cruiser 10.4 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Tiger 10 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Wall Master V 10.5 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Verdon II 9 mm half rope 2010-12-31
Top Gun II 10.5 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Stinger III 9.4 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Stinger II 9.4 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Salewa Special 10.2 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Salewa Classic 10.5 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Rider 10.5 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Rando 8 mm twin rope 2009-12-31
Pro Montain 8.8 mm half rope 2010-12-31
Lyon Equipment 11 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Joker 9.1 mm half, twin & single rope 2009-12-31
Ice Twin 7.7 mm twin rope 2009-12-31
Ice Line 8.1 mm half rope 2010-12-31
Flyer II 10.2 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Flyer 10.2 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Ferrata 9.4 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Edlinger II 10.2 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Cobra II 8.6 mm half rope 2010-12-31
Booster III 9.7 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Edlinger 9.8 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Booster II 9.7 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Apollo II 11 mm single rope 2009-12-31

BlueWater Ropes
Product name Size Description Expiry date
Excellence 8.4 mm half rope 2009-12-31
Ice Floss 7.7 mm twin rope 2009-12-31
APEXX GEAR 10.5 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Enduro 11.0 mm single rope 2008-12-31
DynaPlus 10.7 mm single rope 2008-12-31
DynaGym 10.6 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Accelerator 10.5 mm single rope 2008-12-31
SlimLine Elite 10.3 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Eliminator 10.2 mm single rope 2008-12-31
DynaPlus 10.1 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Lightning Pro 9.7 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Dominator 9.4 mm half rope 2008-12-31
Dominator 9.4 mm single rope 2008-12-31

CAMP
Product name Size Description Expiry date
Fission Walk 7.6 mm twin rope 2009-12-31
Fusion 8.6 mm half rope 2009-12-31
Plekton 8.1 mm half rope 2009-12-31
Positron 11 mm single rope 2009-12-31
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DYNAMIC ROPES UIAA 101 Date: 2008-07-20
The products listed below are conform to the UIAA Standards
Product name Size Description Expiry date
Nucleus 10.4 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Ionic 10.1 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Electron 10.2 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Neutron 10.2 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Proton 9.7 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Atom 9.1 mm single, double & twin rope 2009-12-31
Cousin

Product name Size Description Expiry date
Millet Taurus Triaxiale 10.4 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Millet Taurus Max Triaxiale 10.2 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Millet Silver Triaxiale 9.8 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Millet Rubix Triaxiale 8.5 mm half rope 2010-12-31
Millet Quartz 10.3 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Millet Pro Forces 8.6 mm half rope 2010-12-31
Millet Magma 9.5 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Millet Falcon II 10.2 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Millet Diamond Triaxiale 10.4 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Millet Diamax Triaxiale 10.2 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Millet Catch 10.5 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Millet Alpine Lite 8.0 mm half rope 2010-12-31
Millet Alpha Fluid Protect 10.3 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Cousin Trestec Tepee 10.2 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Cousin Trestec Transalp 9.9 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Cousin Trestec Top Rock XX10.7 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Petzl Dojo 10.7 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Petzl Dragonfly 8.2 mm half rope 2009-12-31
Petzl Zephyr 10.3 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Petzl Nomad 9.9 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Petzl Fuse 9.5 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Cousin Trestec Magma 9.6 mm single rope 2008-12-31

Edelrid
Product name Size Description Expiry date
Perfect 10,5 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Safety Dynamic Dry 12 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Python 10 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Perfect 11 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Vertical 10,3 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Glacier Dry 8,5 mm half rope 2010-12-31
Kestrel & Kestrel Dry 8,5 mm half rope 2010-12-31
Merlin 8,0 mm half rope 2010-12-31
Colibri 7,6 mm twin rope 2010-12-31
Cobra 10,3 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Condor 11 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Tower 10,5 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Osprey 10,5 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Harrier & Harrier Bicolor 10,2 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Hawk 10 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Eagle & Eagle Bicolor 9,8 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Falcon & Falcon Bicolor 9,4 mm single rope 2010-12-31


Edelweiss
Product name Size Description Expiry date
Element 10.2 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Flashlight standard 10 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Starlight 10 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Superlight 10 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Onsight 9.9 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Ultralight 40 9.9 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Performance 9.2 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Laser 9.6 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Tornado 9 mm half rope 2009-12-31
Extrem 9.0 mm half rope 2009-12-31
Extrem 11.0 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Oxygen 8.2 mm half rope 2009-12-31
Touring 8 mm twin rope 2009-12-31
Discover 8 mm twin rope 2009-12-31
Duolight 8.0 mm twin rope 2009-12-31
Dynamic 8.3 mm twin rope 2009-12-31
Calanques 8.5 mm twin rope 2009-12-31
Sella 8.5 mm half rope 2009-12-31
Dynamic 8.3 mm half rope 2009-12-31
Calanques 8.5 mm half rope 2009-12-31
Sella 11 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Sella 10.5 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Torrent 10.5 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Emotion 10.5 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Calanques 10.5 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Ally 10.3 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Axis standard 10.3 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Riglos 10.2 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Axis 10.3 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Sharp 8.5 mm half rope 2009-12-31
Sharp 10.5 mm single rope 2009-12-31

Ferrino
Product name Size Description Expiry date
Ghiaccio 8.5 mm half & twin rope 2009-12-31
Dru dry 8.5 mm half & twin rope 2009-12-31
Presles 9.9 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Mesules 10 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Vercors dry 10.5 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Gilmonte
Product name Size Description Expiry date
Gilmonte Raasta 10 mm single rope 2009-12-31

Goeman
Product name Size Description Expiry date
Twin rope 9.5 mm 2009-12-31
Single rope 11 mm 2009-12-31
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DYNAMIC ROPES UIAA 101 Date: 2008-07-20
The products listed below are conform to the UIAA Standards

Kaya
Product name Size Description Expiry date
Braided 10.5 mm single rope 2009-12-31

Mammut
Product name Size Description Expiry date
Spark 9.6 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Serenity 8.9 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Matterhorn 10.4 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Gym Rope 10.2 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Genesis 8.6 mm half rope 2009-12-31
Universe 9.0 mm half rope 2009-12-31
Start 2000 10.5 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Tusk 9.8 single rope 2009-12-31
Galaxy 10.0 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Flash 10.4 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Flex 10.7 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Infinity 9.5 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Start 2002 10.2 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Phoenix 8.0 mm half rope 2009-12-31
Eternity 10.0 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Twilight 7.6 mm twin rope 2009-12-31
Supersafe 10.4 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Start 2004 10.4 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Revelation 9.3 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Promo 10.2 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Nimbo 10.4 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Half Dome 8.4 mm 2009-12-31
Eiger 10.7 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Dynaflex 10.7 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Alto 10.2 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Airmaster 10.7 mm single rope 2009-12-31

New England Ropes
Product name Size Description Expiry date
Chalk Line 10.8 mm 10.8mm Gym Rope 2010-12-31
Apogee 9,1 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Pinnacle 9,5 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Glider 10,2 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Equinox 10,2 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Elevate 10,8 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Glider 10,5 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Apex 10,5 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Glider 9,9 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Apex 9,9 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Glider 11,0 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Apex 11,0 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Unity 9,0 mm half rope 2008-12-31
Unity 8,0 mm half rope 2008-12-31


PMI
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DYNAMIC ROPES UIAA 101 Date: 2008-07-20
The products listed below are conform to the UIAA Standards
Product name Size Description Expiry date
Spire 10.2 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Cirque 10.6 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Arete 9.7 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Elite 9.4 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Fusion 8.6 mm half & twin rope 2009-12-31
Verglas 8.1 mm half & twin rope 2009-12-31
Latitude 11 mm single rope 2008-12-31

Roca
Product name Size Description Expiry date
Trek 8 mm twin rope 2009-12-31
Io 9.4 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Kio 10.2 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Indoor 10.4 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Minus 9.8 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Tasmania 9 mm half rope 2008-12-31
Tasmania 10.5 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Fanatic 8.5 mm half rope 2008-12-31
Migú 8 mm half & twin rope 2008-12-31
Strong 9 mm half rope 2008-12-31
Free 10.5 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Fanatic 10 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Strong 11 mm single rope 2008-12-31

Singing Rock
Product name Size Description Expiry date
Score 10.1 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Wallter indoor 10.4 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Duran 10,4 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Glory 9,8 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Accord 8.3 mm half & twin rope 2008-12-31
Trinity 10.3 mm single rope 2008-12-31

Sterling Rope
Product name Size Description Expiry date
Infinity Sprint 9.2 mm single & half rope 2010-12-31
Ion 9.5 mm single rope 2010-12-31
Fusion Nano 9.2 mm single & half rope 2009-12-31
Infinity Sprint 10.2 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Marathon Pro 10.1 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Marathon Ultra 10.7 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Infinity Sprint 8.4 mm half rope 2008-12-31
Infinity Enduro 10.7 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Evolution Duetto 8.4 mm half rope 2008-12-31
Evolution Velocity 9.8 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Infinity Enduro 9.1 mm half rope 2008-12-31
Marathon Mega 11.2 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Evolution Kosmos 10.2 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Evolution Quantum 10.7 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Marathon 8.8 mm half rope 2008-12-31
Marathon Sport 10.4 mm single rope 2008-12-31
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DYNAMIC ROPES UIAA 101 Date: 2008-07-20
The products listed below are conform to the UIAA Standards
Product name Size Description Expiry date
Fusion Nitro 9.8 mm single rope 2008-12-31

Tendon
Product name Size Description Expiry date
Tendon Touch 10,2 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Tendon Master 9,4 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Tendon Ambition 10 mm single rope 2009-12-31
Tendon Ambition 7,9 mm twin rope 2009-12-31
Tendon Ambition 7,9 mm half rope 2009-12-31
Tendon Trust 11,4 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Tendon Trust 11 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Tendon Ambition 10,5 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Tendon Smart 10,5 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Tendon Ambition 10,5 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Tendon Ambition 10,2 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Tendon Smart 10,0 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Tendon Master 10,0 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Tendon Ambition 9,8 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Tendon Master 9,7 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Tendon Master 9,2 mm single rope 2008-12-31
Tendon Ambition 9,1 mm half rope 2008-12-31
Tendon Ambition 8,5 mm half rope 2008-12-31
Tendon Master 8,5 mm twin rope 2008-12-31
Tendon Master 8,5 mm half rope 2008-12-31
Tendon Master 7,8 mm twin rope 2008-12-31
Tendon Master 7,8 mm half rope 2008-12-31

怎么说呢,给他们交老些钱检测一次还不行,还要年年给人家UIAA"上贡"要是我我也不干。  

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沙发
发表于 2008-11-17 22:28:54 | 显示全部楼层

UIAA并不神圣 它只能为你多加一道防护

虽然通过了UIAA CE sharken 爪子如高强度使用仍需召回.
虽然通过了UIAA todd 的BELAY LOOP环照样磨损断裂.
装备不能过度使用,一旦使用过度后要及时更换,这是更保险的.
即使是国产绳,随便用几次就死人机率是很小的,重点在于勤检查早更换,重点还是看个人安全意识怎么样.

几十年前的老攀登者还不都是用破绳子爬的?尼龙绳这些年才有.




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发表于 2008-11-18 14:18:55 | 显示全部楼层

我要说的是3个观点:

1.国产绳顶绳使用按抱石网人讲能凑合用,目前国内发生的拓展死伤案例以误操作为主,绳索断裂没见过。在这种数据基础上不应上来就否定国内的产品。

2.进口的再好,也要靠自己检查。没有安全意识再好的绳子也保不了命。比如DAN OSMAN绳子断了是蹦的角度问题。

3.UIAA不是神仙,也一样会有疏忽的时候。我长期接触CE、UL、ISO等机构,就跟你们对国产有成见一样,我对这些认证机构一样有成见。

最后我也不敢用国产的,但是免不了很多机构为省钱会用,我们不要用自己的经济情况去衡量别人的消费。
我们不要理想主义的去打死他们,而是给他们以数据上的监督和指正。
我们更多该做的是给客户数据以说服他们小心,数据才是让人无可辩驳的东西。

经济上堵不住,就要导。

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地板
发表于 2008-11-22 11:52:44 | 显示全部楼层

请教:有没有绳子探伤用的东西 比如拍个片子什么的

外皮看都很好,但是内部有没有进沙子碎石就比较难监测了.

平时已经很注意不让人踩了,但是攀冰时总有人不注意冰爪会绊到.

不知道绳子有没有硬伤,所以心里一直觉得不靠谱...

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发表于 2008-11-26 08:10:22 | 显示全部楼层

如果租用一天是5000块 集中探100条绳子 也值了...

问题是技术上如何实现,技术上实现了再找需求降低成本是相对容易的.

毕竟绳子就是生命....每年让我花50块钱探下我肯定出 呵呵

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发表于 2008-11-28 10:07:43 | 显示全部楼层

严重感谢mh!!!

这个检查方法很实用! 我回家检查绳子去.

ISO9000我们自己又在做了,来检查的时候按流程来,人一走.....怎么顺手怎么来.所以我说我不信任这些认证机构 哈哈哈哈
绳子和生命 janeclimber 2008-11-14
绳子就是生命线,绝不能妥协…… 鸡肚皮 2008-11-14
要看是做什么用了,如果不是用于攀岩防护,用用国产的绳子也无妨。 倾疯铭阅 2008-11-16
楼主说的是动力绳 鸡肚皮 2008-11-16
已经和厂商联系过证实其未做UIAA认证(附已经通过UIAA认证动力绳列表和认证过期时间) duke5d 2008-11-17
UIAA并不神圣 它只能为你多加一道防护 duke5d 2008-11-17
不清楚你在说什么 mh 2008-11-18
我要说的是3个观点: duke5d 2008-11-18
唉,说来说去原来大家都不用…… 鸡肚皮 2008-11-18
我都同意 mh 2008-11-19
UIAA 是和山寨版的绳子没有关系…… 二师兄 2008-11-19
二师兄,现在你的肉比师父的肉都贵了,让我们保护谁呢? SG1SGA 2008-11-19
原讨论贴在这 nick200 2008-11-18
请教:有没有绳子探伤用的东西 比如拍个片子什么的 duke5d 2008-11-22
暂时没指望,工业探伤机又太贵。 jjyfoot 2008-11-26
如果租用一天是5000块 集中探100条绳子 也值了... duke5d 2008-11-26
地铁安检的X光机如何? SG1SGA 2008-11-26
没戏,精度不够。 jjyfoot 2008-11-28
基本检查很简单 mh 2008-11-26
严重感谢mh!!! duke5d 2008-11-28
Todd Skinner 和 Dan Osman的事故调查结果 janeclimber 2008-11-27
是说Skinner的吊环也许和酸蚀有关,说明绳子等尼龙制品怕酸蚀 mh 2008-11-27
Todd Skinner的安全带经检查没有发现任何酸蚀的证据 janeclimber 2008-12-01
多谢。没找到明显原因,这很令人不安! mh 2008-12-05
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